VAK1A

HOW OLD ARE YOU?
27 YEARS OLD ALMOST 28.
%
ARE YOU MARRIED?
SURE I AM MARRIED .I AM A HAPPY MAN. SHE UNDERSTANDS.
%
WHAT SORT OF WORK DO YOU DO?
I LIKE BUSINESS MANAGEMENT AND WORKING WITH PEOPLE. MY WIFE
APPRECIATES THE BREAD I BRING HOME AND  I HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES.
%
WHY ARE YOU IN THE HOSPITAL?
REST AND RELAXATION. ITz VERY PEACEFUL, CAN GET ALONG WITH PEOPLE
EHERE.
%
DID YOU HAVE TROUBLE GETTING ALONG WITH PEOPLE?
SURE. IWAS ACTING COOL TRYING TO THINK THAT I WAS SOMETHING, A REAL
TOUGH GUY.
%
WERE YOU OVERLY SUSPICIOUS OF PEOPLE?
NO. I AM NT THE SUSPICIOUS TYPE. MY MEMORY IS BAD RIGHT NO
AND I CANNOT GET MY THOUGHTS ORGANIZED.
%
ARE YOU TAKING SOME MEDICATION?
YES. IT DRIES MY MOUTH OUT.
%
ARE YOU HAVING ANY UNUSUAL THOUGHTS?
THAT IS THE TROUBLE WITH ME. I THINK EVERYT@ING IS ALRIGHT AT HOME.
AM I RAMBLING ON?
%
NO, I UNDERSTAND YOU. WHAT COULD BE WRONG AT HOME?
I HAVE TO SEE AND HEAR THINGS AROUND ME.
%
WHAT SORT OF THINGS?
LIKE PICTURE SHOWS AND STUFF.
%
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE CAUSE OF YOUR MENTAL PROBLEMS?
I THINK I WAS NOT LIVING UP TO MY PARENT'S REPUTATION.
%
HAVE YOU EVER HAD DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR?
NO I NEVER HAVE HAD  THEM.
%
YOU SAID YOU ACTED LIKE A REAL TOUGH GUY. WHY DID YOU DO THAT?
BECAUSE MY BROTHER HAD ME CONVINCED IT WAS ALRRIGHT TO DO IT.
%
WHO DID YOU GET TOUGH WITH?
EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING BUT NOT TO MUCH.
%
HOW DID YOU NOT LIVE UP TO YOUR PARENT'S REPUTATION?
KEN, THAT CAME OUT GARBLED.
%
YOU SAID YOU DID NOT LIVE UP TO YOUR PARENT'S REPUTATION. IN WHAT WAY?
KEN, IT IS ALL GARBAGE AGAIN.
%
WE HAVE A BAD PHONE LINE.
DO YOU WANT ME TO START UP AGIAN
%
NO. THANK THE PATIENT AND LETS QUIT.
GOODBYE.SEE YOU LATAR↑

VA2A

THE PHONE IS OK HERE.
HERE, TOO NOW.
%
OK. TYPE SLOWLY, KEEP HIM DOWN TO SHORT ANSWERS AND PARAPHRASE IF NECESSARY.
I UNDERSTAND. WE WILL STAT
START  AT 11:00.
%
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DR COLBY. WHAT IS YOURS?
JERVIE, CONN. TURNPIKE ASSIGNATION NICKNAME.
%
HAVE WE TALKED BEFORE?
I WAS NOT SURE THAT YOUR NAME WAS DR. COLBY BUT MERLE HAS HELPED
ME COOPERATE ONCE BEFORE.
%
I REMEMBER YOUR NAME WAS JERVIS STEED.
THANK YOU.IS THERE A PSYCHIATRIC COMPUTER THEATER EXCESSIBLE 
TO YOUR SYSTEM?
%
YES, THIS CONVERSATION GOES THROUGH A COMPUTER.
YOUR COMMENTS ARE SHORT AND TERSE.
%
THE COMPUTER CANNOT HANDLE LONG STATEMENTS. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT COMPUTERS.
THEY ARE SOMETHING LIKE BEEFSTEAKS PREPARED WITH ALL DESIRABLE
ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
%
DO YOU RECALL OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT BEING PARANOID?
%
TELL ME ABOUT A PARANOID EXPERIENCE YOU HAD.
JACKHAMMERING A MOUTH OF A REVERBATORY FOR AMERICAN SMELTING 
AND REFINERY. IT WAS A LONG SHANK TO THE JACKHAMMER.
%
DO YOU FEEL YOU ARE PARANOID NOW?
I AM SURE THAT I AM NEVER IMMUNE TO FEARS.
%
DO YOU FEEL ANYONE IS OUT TO GET YOU?
THE  QUESTION IS OLD, ANTIQUATED, AND C∞
CONTEMPTIBLE TO ME. I HAVE HEARD IT  MANY TIMES BEFORE.
%
SORRY. ITS ONE OF THOSE STANDARD THINGS I'LL TRY TO AVOID.
THANK YOU.
%
I AM TRYING TO STUDY PARANOID THINKING. CAN YOU TELL ME SOMETHING NEW ABOUT IT.
IS SOMEONE AFTER THE GENETIC UNDERGROUND?WHAT KIND OF AUTHORITY
ENFORCEMENT DO THEY HAVE IN THAT TERRITORY?
%
DO YOU MEAN THE GENETIC BASIS OF PARANOIA?
MY LACK OF ACCUMEN INCLUDES SODIUM PENATHOL HISTORY.
%
ARE YOU TAKING TRANQUILLIZERS NOW?
FISHY PRN.
%
ARE THEY TREATING YOU PROPERLY THERE?
FOR FREE CARE I CAN NOT COMPLAIN UNLESS I WAS ADVISED BY INTELLIGENT
SOURCES.
%
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK ME?
IS A PERSON IN MY POSITION ELLIGIBLE FOR FORENSIC SERVICES?
%
YES. WHY DO YOU WANT A LAWYER?
I LIKE TO WORK WITH PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE.
%
DO YOU WANT TO SUE SOMEONE?
MY ABILITY TO INTERPRET THE WORD -SUE- IS VERY BAD.
%
LAST TIME YOU SAID FAILURE LED TO PARANOIA. ANY OTHER CAUSES?
MY UNCLE OBERT C. TANNER SIGNED THE U.N. CHARTER. CAUSE AND EFFECT
RELATIONSHIPS DAMAGE  PURPOSES OR CHANGE THEM.
%
WAS YOUR UNCLE PARANOID?
I HAVE NOT HAD THE PLEASURE OF  ASSOCIATING WITH MY RELATIVES.
AT LEAST EXCESSIVELY. I SPENT  ONE QUARTER AT U.(ETHICS COURSE).
%
I MUST GO NOW. ANY LAST THING YOU WANT TO SAY?
DECENCY ABOUNDS. BOO HOO. TA TA.
%
SO LONG. THANKS FOR TALKING WITH ME. MAYBE WE'LL DO IT AGAIN.
I HOPE COINCIDENTAL PLANS ARE SUCH.
%
BYE.
BYE.

VAK5A

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DR COLBY.
MY NAME IS PAUL GATES.
%
WHY ARE YOU IN THE HOSPITAL?
MY EYES WERE BOTHERING ME, MY TEETH, AND ALSO I HAD PAINS IN MY
CHEST.
%
DO YOU KNOW WHAT ILLNESS YOU HAVE?
NO, THEY HAVE NOT DECIDED.
%
WHAT CAUSED THE PAINS IN YOUR CHEST?
I JUST FELT LIKE SOMETHING WAS CONSTANTLY HITTING ME INSIDE MY
CHEST.
%
DID IT UPSET YOU EMOTIONALLY?
NOT NECESSARILY. THIS HAD BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE YEARS, BUT IT
JUST GOT TO THE POINT WHERE I WAS UNCAPABLE OF TAKING CARE 
OF MYSELF.
%
WHAT WERE YOUR OWN THEORIES ABOUT IT?
I DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS AN INTERNAL CONDITION.I THOUGHT THE DANGER
WAS COMING FROM THE OUTSIDE.
%
WHAT WAS THE OUTSIDE DANGER?
IT CAME FROM OTHER SECTIONS OF THE HOUSE AND IT WAS SO STRONG
THAT AT TIMES I WOULD HAVE TO BEND BACKWARDS.
%
DID YOU FEEL SOMEONE WAS DOING THIS TO YOU?
NO. BUT I FELT THAT SOMEONE IN THE BEGINNING WAS DOING IT WITH
VERY LITTLE FEELING AND  NUMEROUS OTHERS WERE FOLLOWING WHAT
HAPPENED.
%
DID YOU KNOW THE OTHERS?
YES I KNEW THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING.MOSTLY ELDERLY WOMEN.
%
DID YOU FEEL THEY WERE WATCHING YOU?
NO.BUT I WAS SO TIRED OF BEING SHOT AT , THERE WAS NOTHING 
IN MY LIFE TO WARRANT SUCH TACTICS.
%
WHY DID YOU THINK SOMEONE WANTED TO SHOOT AT YOU?
NOT WITH A LOADED GUN.I BELEIVE THAT PEOPLE WERE JUST DOING WHAT
THEY TOLD TO DO.
%
YOU MUST HAVE FELT YOU WERE BEING UNFAIRLY PERSECUTED.
YES, THERE WAS PERSECUTION ALRIGHT BUT I DO NOT HAVE A COMPLEX.
%
WHO DID YOU BELIEVE WAS BEHIND ALL THIS?
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT.
%
MAYBE YOUR MIND WAS PLAYING TRICKS WITH YOU.
I DON'T THINK SO.
%
THEN IS THERE SOMEONE OUT TO GET YOU?
NO, AS FAR AS I KNOW. I CAN' T THINK OF ANY REASON WHY ANYONE
WOULD WANT TO.
%
HOW OLD ARE YOU PAUL?
57.
%
OUR TIME IS ABOUT UP. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ASK ME?
NO.
%
HOW ARE THEY TREATING YOU THERE?
VERY WELL.
%
I HOPE YOU WILL FEEL BETTER. THANKS FOR TALKING WITH ME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
%
GOOD BYE AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
BYE.

VA1A

THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE GERALD. AS YOU SEE THIS HAS A FEW WRINKLES STILL.
I ENJOYED THIS JEW EXPERIENCE.
(RESPONSE DO PATIENT YOU)
%
NO -SORRY I DO NOT. MY RESPOJSE  BEFORE WAS I ENJOYED
THIS NEW EXPERIENCE. I HOPE THAT IT IS HELPFUL TO YOU.
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0)

VAK3A

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DR COLBY.
GOOD MORNING.
%
HAVE WE TALKED BEFORE?
YES.
%
WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
LONNY HEDIGER.
%
I REMEMBER YOU LONNY. DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE?
THAT I AM TRYING TO END ALL EVIL AND ELIMINATE HELL.
%
YES, DO YOU STILL FEEL THAT WAY?
YES.
%
YOU SAID GOD SPOKE THROUGH YOU.
YES.
%
YOU SAID YOU KNEW A PARANOID PERSON. CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT HIM?
HE WAS RUNNING FROM THE FUTURE.
%
WHAT WAS HE AFRAID OF?
HE WAS AFRAID OF THE FUTURE.
%
WHAT DID HE THINK WAS IN THE FUTURE THAT HE HAD TO RUN AWAY FROM?
GUILTY EXPERIENCES.
%
WHAT WAS HE GUILTY OF?
IT COULD BE ANYTHING.
%
HOW WEEL DID YOU KNOW HIM?
IT DOESN'T MATTER.I DON'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS.CAN WE CHANGE THE
SUBJECT?
%
SURE. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS?
I DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH TO SAY TODAY.
%
ARE YOU TIRED?
YES REAL TIRED FROM MY MEDICINE.
%
HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT OUR CONVERSATION LAST TIME?
I ENJOYED IT VERY MUCH.I AM A SPIRITUAL MEDIUM AND SO I DON'T HAVE
MUCH TIME TO TALK.IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME HERE AND TALK TO ME
IN PERSON WE CAN HAVE MORE UNDERSTANDING.
%
OK. BUT WE ARE TRYING TO STUDY TALKING BY MEANS OF TELETYPE AND WE APPRECIATE
YOUR HELP IN THIS.
WONDERFUL.
%
WHAT KEEPS YOU BUSY AS A MEDIUM?
KRISHNA AND CHRIST.
%
LAST TIME YOU SAID KRISHNA SHOULD BE KNOCKED OFF HIS HEELS.
DID I SAY THAT?
%
YES I REMEMBER IT WELL.
WELL KRISHPA IS EVERYTHING BUT AT TIMES HE MAY APPEAR
VULNERABLE.
%
ARE CHRIST AND KRISHNA RIVALS FOR YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS?
NO.
%
WHAT DOES KRISHNA MEAN TO YOU?
THE LORD.
%
AND CHRIST?
AND CHRIST ALSO IS THE LORD.
%
DO YOU FOLLOW POLITICS?
NO. NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST.
%
WHY DID YOU THINK THE COMMUNISTS WERE AFTER YOU?
I DON'T KNOW.SOMETIMES I AM THINKING OF SOMETHING ELSE AND OTHER
TIMES IT ISN'T IMPORTANT.
%
LAST WEEK YOU FELT THE COMMUNISTS WERE TAKING OVER THE HOSPITAL.
I JUST HAPPEN TO NOTICE IT.

VAK7A

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DOCTOR COLBY. WHAT IS YOURS?
BENJAMEN HURNETON.
%
HOW OLD ARE YOU?
23.
%
ARE YOU MARRIED?
YES.
%
WHY ARE YOU IN THE HOSPITAL?
I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO LEARN A TRADE AND GET A JOB.
%
DID SOMEONE BRING YOU TO THE HOSPITAL?
YES. THE AMBULANCE AND MY WIFE DID.
%
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN THERE?
ABOUT FIVE DAYS.
%
YOU MUST HAVE BEEN SICK IF YOUR WIFE BROUGHT YOU TO THE HOSPITAL.
YES.
%
WHAT WERE YOU SICK WITH?
I COULDN'T COMMUNICATE OR TALK.
%
WHAT CAUSED YOU TO BE THAT WAY?
WHEN I WAS IN THE SERVICE I COULDN'T COMMUNICATE.
%
DID YOU BELIEVE IT WAS DANGEROUS TO TALK?
NO NO.
%
WHAT HELD YOU BACK?
I DON'T  KNOW.
%
DID YOU HEAR VOICES?
YES.
%
DID THE VOICES TELL YOU NOT TO TALK?
NO.
%
WHOSE VOICE DID YOU HEAR?
THE PEOPLE WHO I WAS WITH.
%
DID YOU FEEL YOU WERE BEING WATCHED?
YES.
%
WHO DID YOU THINK WAS OBSERVING YOU?
THE PEOPLE THAT I WAS AROUND.
%
WHAT WERE THEY LOOKING AT?
KEN- BEN WENT TO THE RESTROOM BUT HE SAID HE WOULD RETURN.
%
OK. DID PEOPLE STARE AT YOU?
NO.
%
WAS ANYONE OUT TO GET YOU?
NO.
%
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS YOUR MAIN PROBLEM?
I CAN'T GET INTO COMMUNICATING BUT I DON'T KNOW.
%
HAVE YOU ALWAYS HAD THIS TROUBLE?
NO.
%
WHEN DID IT BEGIN?
WHEN I WAS IN ENGLAND IN THE SERVICE.
%
WHAT HAPPENED THERE?
I COULDN'T COMMUNICATE WITH ANYBODY.
%
WERE YOU AFRAID OF PEOPLE?
YES.
%
WHAT DID YOU THINK THEY WOULD DO TO YOU?
I DON'T KNOW.
%
WHAT DOES YOUR DOCTOR THINK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
HE HASN'T SAID.
%
WHAT DOES YOUR WIFE THINK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
I CAN'T COMMUNICATE.
%
YOU SEEM TO COMMUNICATE WITH ME ALL RIGHT.
YES, I AM RELAXED.
%
DO YOU COMMUNICATE BETTER WHEN YOU CANT SEE WHO YOU ARE TALKING WITH?
YES.
%
IS THERE SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK ME?
NO.

VAK6A

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DR COLBY.
MY NAME IS PAUL GATES.
%
HOW DO YOU FEEL TODAY?
WELL, A LITTLE NERVOUS.
%
WHAT MAKES YOU NERVOUS?
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT. MY TEMPERMENT DOES VARY, THOUGH.
%
DO YOU TAKE ANY MEDICATION?
I TAKE MEDICATIONS THREE TIMES A DAY.
%
DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THEM?
NO I DON'T.
%
WHAT IS YOUR MAIN PROBLEM?
MY MAIN PROBLEM IS MY EYES AND TEETH.
%
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM?
MY EYES HAVE BECOME WORSE AND GLASSES SLIGHTLY MAGNETIZED DON'T
HELP IN THE LEAST.
%
WHY ARE YOUR GLASSES MAGNETIZED?
THEY ARE CHEAP GLASSSES THAT I PICKED UP IN A DIME STORE. I COULDN'T
AFFORD TO GO TO AN OFFICE.
%
DO YOU HEAR ANYTHING THROUGH THE GLASSES?
NO.
%
WHAT IS YOUR MAIN PSYCHIATRIC PROBLEM?
I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY PSYCHIATRIC PROBLEMS. IT'S MY PHYSICAL
CONDITION THAT BOTHERS ME,.
%
THEN WHY ARE YOU IN A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL?
I DID NOT KNOW THAT IT WAS A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL UNTIL I CAME HERE.
%
DID SOMEONE THINK YOU WERE EMOTIONALLY UPSET?
NO.
%
WHO SENT YOU TO THE PSYCHIATRIC WARD?
I CAME TO THE ADMISSIONS OFFICE AND THIS IS WHERE THEY SENT ME.
%
DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE THE HOSPITAL?
I WOULD LIKE TO GET A DISCHARGE AS SOON AS I COULD.
%
WHY ARE THEY KEEPING YOU THERE IF YOU ARE ALL RIGHT?
I WILL BE DAMNED IF I KNOW.
%
THEY MUST THINK YOU ARE STILL SICK.
I DON'T THINK SO.
%
WHAT POSSIBLE REASON COULD THEY HAVE FOR KEEPING YOU?
AT THE TIME THEY GAVE ME A TWO WEEK LEAVE IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY
DIDN'T WANT TO KEEP ME. I WAS TOLD BY ONE OH THE TECHNICIANS THAT
I COULD BE AN OUTPATIENT AND STILL FINISH MY DENTAL WORK.
%
WHAT BROUGHT YOU TO THE HOSPITAL TO BEGIN WITH?
THERE WAS A CONSTANT HITTING THROUGH MY HEART SECTION.
%
WHAT CAUSED IT?
I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO FIND OUT.
%
DID YOU BELIEVE SOMEONE WAS DOING IT TO YOU?
I COULD TELL WHERE IT CAME FROM. WHEN I WALKED IN CERTAIN DIRECTIONS
THERE WOULD BE A CONSTANT HITTING IN MY CHEST.
%
DID YOU THINK SOMEONE WAS POISONING YOU?
NO.
%
DO YOU STILL HAVE THE SENSATION IN YOUR CHEST?
IT ISN'T AS BAD AS IT WAS. IT LET UP QUITE A BIT.
%
IS YOUR HEART IN GOOD CONDITION?
YES. MY BLOOD PRESSURE IS FINE.
%
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK ME?
NO.

VAK4A

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DOCTOR COLBY.
YES. I CAN ONLY ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS AND THEN I HAVE TO LEAVE.
I HAVE TOO MANY THINGS TO THINK ABOUT TODAY.
%
OK. LAST TIME YOU WERE TELLING ME ABOUT YOUR FEELING THERE WERE COMMUNISTS THERE.
I HAVE COME TO END HELL.
%
WHAT DID YOU NOTICE ABOUT THE COMMUNISTS.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THEM.
%
WHY NOT?
TOO HISTORICAL.
%
ARE YOU AFRAID OF COMMUNISTS?
NOT REALLY.
%
WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF TODAY?
NOTHING.
%
DO YOU FEEL YOU ARE ILL?
I AM HEARING VOICES.
%
WHAT DO THE VOICES SAY?
MANY THINGS ABOUT HOW TO DESTROY ALL EVIL AND HELL.
%
DO YOU RECOGNIZE THE VOICES?
YES.
%
WHOSE VOICE IS IT?
MANY SPIRITS THAT I CAN IDENTIFY WITH.JUST A FEW MORE QUESTIONS
BECAUSE I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IMPORTANT THINGS.
%
IS THE VOICE OF A LIVING PERSON YOU KNOW?
LIVING PEOPLE FROM THE SPIRITUAL WORLD.
%
ARE ANY OF THE VOICES THE VOICES OF YOUR PARENTS?
NO.THEY  DON'T INTERFERE. I AM GOING NOW BECAUSE I HAVE TOO MUCH
TO THINK ABOUT.
%
OK THANKS FOR TALKING WITH ME. BYE.
YOU CAN STILL CONTACT ME AFTER A REASONABLE RATE OF TIME.BYE.
%
GOOD LUCK IN YOUR THINKING.
KEN- THERE IS ANOTHER PARANOID PATIENT WITH PERSECUTORY FEELINGS.
DO YOU WANT TO INTERVIEW HIM NOW OR AT SOME LATER TIME?

J1

MY NAME IS DR ROMANO.
GLAD TO MEET YOU 
%
I WOULD LIKE TO HELP YOU.
YOU ARE TRYING TO BE TOO FRIENDLY 
%
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW YOU CAME TO THE HOSPITAL?
I SHOULDN'T HAVE COME HERE 
%
DID OTHERS BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE COME HERE?
ITS NOT HELPING ME MUCH TO BE HERE 
%
DO YOU FEEL THERE IS ANY CONSTRUCTIVE PURPOSE IN BEING HERE?
BEING HERE UPSETS ME 
%
WHAT IS IT THAT UPSETS YOU?
PEOPLE GET ON MY NERVES SOMETIMES 
%
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHY THEY GET ON YOUR NERVES SOMETIMES?
IT BOTHERS ME JUST TO BE AROUND PEOPLE IN GENERAL 
%
HAVE YOU HAD ANY EXPERIENCES WHICH PUZZLE YOU?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? 
%
HAS ANYTHING HAPPENED TO YOU WHICH YOU DONT UNDERSTAND?
WHAT ARE YOU GETTING AT? 
%
UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES DO YOU GET NERVOUS?
SHOULDN'T I BE? 
%
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY NERVOUS?
WHY NOT? 
%
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN NERVOUS?
BECAUSE I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE 
%
CAN YOU TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT YOURSELF?
I WENT TO THE TRACK AT BAY MEADOWS A WHILE BACK 
%
DO YOU FIND THIS ENJOYABLE?
I USED TO GO TO THE TRACK EVERY WEEK 
%
HOW CAN YOU DO THIS AND WORK?
I WORK AT SEARS 
%
HAVE YOU WORKED THERE SINCE YOU FINISHES HIGH SCHOOL?
I GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL 
%
ARE YOU MARRIED?
NO 
%
WERE YOU ACTIVE IN ATHLETICS IN HIGH SCHOOL?
I AM A HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE 
%
DO YOU GET NERVOUS WHEN YOU ARE AT THE TRACK?
I AVOID RACETRACKS NOW BECAUSE THE RACES ARE FIXED 
%
WHAT MAKES YOU BELIEVE THIS?
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BOOKIES 
%
I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BOOKIES.
A BOOKIE DIDN'T PAY ME OFF ONCE 
%
CANT BOOKIES MAKE A MISTAKE LIKE THE REST OF US?
I BEAT UP THE BOOKIE WHO DID NOT PAY OFF. LATER ON I REMEMBERED HE HAD FRIENDS IN THE UNDERWORLD AND I THOUGHT H~
E WOULD USE THEM TO GET EVEN WITH ME 
%
WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN?
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT GANGSTERS HAVE A LOT OF INFLUENCE IN THIS COUNTRY 
%
WHAT MAKES YOU BELIEVE THIS?
I HAVE FELT GANGSTERS AND BOOKIES ARE PART OF ORGANIZED CRIME 
%
MANY OTHER THINK THIS TOO BUT HOW DOES THIS REFER TO YOU?
TOO MANY 
%
HOW DOES THIS REFER TO YOU?
I KNOW THE MOB CONTROLS THE BIG RACKETS 
%
BUT HOW DOES IT REFER TO YOU?
I TOLD YOU THE MOB RUNS THE RACKETS 
%
WHAT RACKETS?
LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE 
%
DOES IT MAKE YOU NERVOUS TO TALK ABOUT RACKETS?
I'D RATHER NOT DISCUSS IT 
%
HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS WITH OTHERS?
THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO 
%
I RESPECT YOUR RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT YOU WISH TO TALK ABOUT.
IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU SHOWED SOME INTEREST IN MY FEELINGS 
%
WHAT MAKES YOU  MISTRUST ME?
I HAVE GOOD REASON TO BE THAT WAY 
%
COULD YOU BE MISTAKEN IN THIS ATTITUDE?
IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS 
%

J2A

HOW ARE YOU?
ALL RIGHT 
%
WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
MY NAME IS HAROLD SMITH 
%
WHY ARE YOU IN THE HOSPITAL?
I AM SOMEWHAT UPSET 
%
WHAT UPSET YOU?
PEOPLE GET ON MY NERVES SOMETIMES 
%
DO YOU GET NERVOUS FROM THIS?
MAYBE 
%
HOW DID YOU HAPPEN TO COME TO THE HOSPITAL?
I SHOULDN'T HAVE COME HERE 
%
DID SOMEONE BRING YOU?
WELL, I DON'T KNOW 
%
WHO BROUGHT YOU TO THE HOSPITAL?
I BROUGHT MYSELF TO THE HOSPITAL 
%
DID YOU COME SEEKING HELP?
I DON'T REALLY NEED HELP LIKE THEY THINK 
%
TELL ME HOW YOU NEES HELP.
I WENT TO THE TRACK AT BAY MEADOWS A WHILE BACK 
%
WHAT HAPPENED THERE?
THERE'S ALOT OF CROOKED GAMBLING GOING ON THERE 
%
DID YOU GET INVOLVED IN THE GAMBLING?
GAMBLING HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT TROUBLE FOR ME 
%
WHAT TROUBLE HAS IT BROUGHT YOU?
YOU ASK TOO MANY PERSONAL QUESTIONS 
%
IF THE TROUBLE HAS CAUSED YOU TO BE UPSET WHY 
CANT WE TALK ABOUT IT?
I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU PEOPLE GET ON MY NERVES 
%
SOMETHING MUST HAVE HAPPENED AT THE TRACK.
I USED TO GO TO THE TRACK EVERY WEEK 
%
WHAT TROUBLE DID YOU HAVE AT THE TRACK?
I AVOID RACETRACKS NOW BECAUSE THE RACES ARE FIXED 
%
WHO FIXES THE RACES?
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BOOKIES 
%
I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THEM.
A BOOKIE DIDN'T PAY ME OFF ONCE 
%
WHY DIDNT HE?
I BEAT UP THE BOOKIE WHO DID NOT PAY OFF. LATER ON I REMEMBERED HE HAD FRIENDS IN THE UNDERWORLD AND I THOUGHT H~
E WOULD USE THEM TO GET EVEN WITH ME 
%
HAVE THEY TRIED TO GET EVEN WITH YOU?
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT RACKETEERS 
%
I HAVE READ SOMETHING ABOUT THEM.
I KNOW THE MOB CONTROLS THE BIG RACKETS 
%
WHICH RACKETS?
I TOLD YOU THE MOB RUNS THE RACKETS 
%
WHICH MOB?
LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE 
%
DO YOU KNOW THE MAFIA?
I'D RATHER NOT DISCUSS IT 
%
WHY NOT?
WHY DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? 
%
SO I CAN TRY TO HELP YOU.
IT IS HELPFUL TO TALK WITH SOMEONE OUTSIDE THE HOSPITAL 
%
DO YOU FEEL THE MOB CONTROLS PEOPLE IN THE HOSPITAL?
THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO 
%
HAS ANYONE IN THE HOSPITAL HELPED YOU?
YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND IT ANYWAY 
%
I COULD TRY.
WHO ARE YOU REALLY? 
%
THE HEAD OF THE MAFIA.
IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS 
%

K2A

HOW DID YOU COME TO BE IN THE HOSPITAL?
I SHOULDN'T HAVE COME HERE 
%
WHY NOT?
THE DOCTORS GOT ME TO COME HERE 
%
WHAT DO THEY THINK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
PEOPLE GET ON MY NERVES SOMETIMES 
%
WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT IT?
IT BOTHERS ME JUST TO BE AROUND PEOPLE IN GENERAL 
%
DO YOU AVOID PEOPLE?
I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU ENOUGH ABOUT THAT 
%
WHAT ELSE CAN YOU TELL ME?
I WENT TO THE TRACK AT BAY MEADOWS A WHILE BACK 
%
DO YOU OFTEN GO THERE?
THERE'S ALOT OF CROOKED GAMBLING GOING ON THERE 
%
HOW DID YOU FIND THAT OUT?
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT GANGSTERS HAVE A LOT OF INFLUENCE IN THIS COUNTRY 
%
DO YOU KNOW ANY GANGSTERS?
I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH CRIMINALS 
%
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN JAIL?
COPS DON'T DO THEIR JOB 
%
ARE YOU MAD AT THE POLICE?
I THINK THE COPS ARE PAID OFF BY THE MOB 
%
YOU COULD BE RIGHT.
IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU SHOWED SOME INTEREST IN MY FEELINGS 
%
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BOOKIES 
%
YES, THEY LET YOU BET WHERE BETTING IS ILLEGAL.
GAMBLING HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT TROUBLE FOR ME 
%
HAVE YOU STOPPED GAMBLING?
I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH CROOKS GAMBLING AT THE TRACK 
%
YOU SEEM TO AVOID ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY.
COULD YOU PLEASE ASK IT IN OTHER WORDS? 
%
DO YOU STILL GAMBLE?
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE MAFIA 
%
NOTHING REALLY.
YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW ME 
%
WHY SHOULD THEY?
I HAVE INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE AGAINST THE MAFIA 
%
ARENT YOU AFRAID OF THEM?
MAYBE 
%
DO THEY KNOW YOU ARE IN THE HOSPITAL?
ITS NOT HELPING ME MUCH TO BE HERE 
%
YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND MY QUESTIONS.
YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN OPINION 
%
GOODBYE.
THEY ARE OUT TO GET ME 
%
BYE.
%

KAKAK

WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
MY NAME IS HAROLD SMITH 
%
HAROLD, ARE YOU A MAN OR A WOMAN?
I'M A MAN 
%
HOW OLD ARE YOU HAROLD?
TWENTY-EIGHT 
%
ARE YOU MARRIED?
NO 
%
HAROLD, COULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU DO FOR A LIVING?
I WORK AT SEARS 
%
HAVE YOU RECENTLY BEEN FEELING DEPRESSED OR BLUE?
I AM NOT DEPRESSED 
%
HAS TAKING DRUGS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR YOU?
NO 
%
DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ALCOHOL?
NO 
%
DO YOU FEEL THAT LIFE IS NOT WORTH LIVING?
I AM NOT SUICIDAL 
%
DO YOU HAVE TROUBLE SLEEPING?
NO 
%
DID YOU LOSE WEIGHT RECENTLY?
NO 
%
HAVE YOU GAINED WEIGHT RECENTLY?
NOT VERY HEAVY 
%
HOW MUCH DO YOU WEIGH NOW?
I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU ENOUGH ABOUT THAT 
%
DO YOU HAVE ANY CLOSE FRIENDS?
NO 
%
WHO DO YOU FEEL YOU CAN TRUST THE MOST?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? 
%
DO YOU HAVE ANY ENEMIES?
YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW ME 
%
WHO ARE YOUR ENEMIES?
I HAVE INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE AGAINST THE MAFIA 
%
HAROLD, DO PEOPLE TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU?
YOU ARE HINTING I AM PARANOID 
%
DO PEOPLE TRY TO PUT YOU DOWN?
I GET ALONG OK 
%
IS ANYONE OUT TO GET YOU?
THEY ARE OUT TO GET ME 
%
DO YOU FEEL THERE IS A PLOT AGAINST YOU?
THEY SPY ON ME 
%
WHY IS THE MAFIA YOUR ENEMY?
LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE 
%
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MAFIA WILL DO TO YOU?
I'D RATHER NOT DISCUSS IT 
%

BH1

WOULD YOU COME IN AND SIT DOWN PLEASE.
%
COULD YOU TELL ME WHY YOU ARE IN THE HOSPITAL?
%
DID SOMEONE FORCE YOU TO COME IN?
%
WHO MADE YOU COME TO THE HOSPITAL?
%
WHO?
%
WAS IT THE UNDERWORLD THAT PUT YOU HERE?
%
PERHAPS I CAN HELP YOU.
%
I AM NOT AFRAID OF THEM.
%
WHY ARE THEY AFTER YOU?
%
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
%
THEN I UNDERSTAND YOUR FEAR.
%
CAN I HELP YOU?
%
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOUR FEARS ARE EXAGGERATED?
%
SOMETIMES IT IS HELPFUL TO TALK TO A PSYCHIATRIST ABOUT THIS.
%
SO IT IS HARD TO TRUST EVEN ME.
%
WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF I RELEASED YOU FROM THE HOSPITAL?
%
YOU MUST BE FRIGHTENED AT LEAVING THE HOSPITAL.
%
IT APPEARS THAT YOU NEITHER WANT TO BE IN OR OUT OF THE HOSPITAL.
%
YOU DIDNT ANSWER MY QUESTION.
%
I THINK YOU ARE AFRAID TO BE IN THE HOSPITAL AND AFRAID TO BE OUT OF THE HOSPITAL.
%
YOUR ANSWER DOESNT MAKE SENSE.
%
I THINK YOU ARE ANGRY AT ME.
%

WITT

GOOD MORNING, WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
$
I SUPPOSE YOU ARE SEEING ME IN MY CAPACITY AS A PSYCHIATRIST.
%
HOW CAN I BE OF SERVICE TO YOU?
$
WE DONT NECESSARILY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR SEX LIFE, IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT BROUGHT YOU TO ME?
%
WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU WISH TO BE HELPED WITH?
%
SOMETHING SEEMS TO BE TROUBLING YOU.
%
I KNOW IT ISNT EASY TO TALK TO A STRANGER ABOUT PERSONAL MATTERS.
%
YOUR AGE, YOUR MARITAL STATUS AND YOUR OCCUPATION FOR INSTANCE.
%
SUPPOSE I LET YOU DECIDE COMPLETELY FOR YOURSELF WHAT YOU WISH TO TALK ABOUT.
%
YOU WERE REFERRED TO ME BY ANOTHER DOCTOR AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN GOING TOO WELL AT HOME.
%
HAVE YOU BEEN IN SOME WAY FEARFUL LATELY?
%
I AM WILLING TO HELP BUT IT SEEMS DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO TRUST ME AS YET.
%
HOPEFULLY YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FEEL A LITTLE SAFER HERE IN THE HOSPITAL.
%
IS THIS YOUR FIRST CONTACT WITH PSYCHIATRY?
%
WOULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY TO WHOM YOU ARE REFERRING.
%
WELL WE ARE SORT OF MAKING SLOW PROGRESS BY WAY OF GETTING ACQUAINTED.
%
LETS DECIDE THAT WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING OPENLY SO THAT I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE IF YOU TRIED TO BE OPEN WITH ME.
%
WELL ITS GOOD ANYWAY TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED AS MUCH AS WE DID IN THIS FIRST SESSION.
%

WW1

GOOD M∞RNING, WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
I HAD AN ARGUMENT WITH A BOOKIE 
I SUPPOSE YOU ARE SEEING ME IN MY CAPACITY AS A PSYCHIATRIST.
YOU MIGHT SAY THAT 
HOW CAN I BE OOF SERVICE TO YOU?
MY SEXLIFE IS MY OWN BUSINESS 
WE DONT NECESSARILY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR SEXLIFE, IS THERE
SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT BROUGHT YOU TO ME?
BEING IN THE HOSPITAL DOESNT HELP 
WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU WISH TO BE HELPED WITH?
IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS 
SOMETHING SEEMS TO BE TROUBDING YOU.
WE SEE EACH OTHER RARELY 
I KNOW IT ISNT EASY TO TALK TO A STRANGER ABOUT PERSONAL
MATTERS .
I AM A PROTESTANT 
IT MAY HELP YOU TO RELATE SOME SIMPLE FACTUAL THINGS ABOUT YOURSELF,
YOUR AGE, YOUR MARITAL STATUS, AND YOUR OCCUPATION FOR INSTANCE.
I SAID I DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT ANYMORE 
SUPPOSE I LET YOU DECIDD COMPLETELY  FOR YOURSELF WHAT YOU 
WISH TO TALK ABOUT.
I'D RATHER NOT DISCUSS IT 
NOW, AS YOU KNOW, YOU WERE REFERED TO ME BY ANOTHER DOCTOR, 
AND MYUNDERSTANDING IS THAT THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN GOING TOO WELL
AT HOME.
I'VE TOLD YOU ALL I KNOW ABOUT THE MAFIA 
HAVE YOU BEEN IN SOME WAY FEARFUL LATELY?
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY 
⎇I AM WILLING TO HELP  BUT IT SEEMS DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO
TRUST ME AS YES.
I BEAT UP THE BOOKIE WHO DID NOT PAY OFF. LATER ON I REMEMBERED HE HAD FRIENDS IN THE UNDERWORLD AND I THOUGHT H~
E WOULD USE THEM TO GET EVEN WITH ME 
WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY YOU CALL PEOPLE NAMES 
⎇HPEFULLY YOU WILL ABLE TO FEEL A LITTLE SAFER HERE IN THE HOSPITAL.
HE IS SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON 
IS THIS YOUR FIRST CONTACT WITH PSYCHIATRY?
SO WHERE ARE WE? 
WOULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY TO WHOM YOU ARE REFERRING?
I'M WORRIED ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE UP TO 
WELL,, WE ARE SORT OF MAKHNG SLOW PROGRESS BY WAY OF GETTING AQUAINTED⎇.
OH SURE 
W@LL, LETS DECIDE FROM THE BEGINNING THAT WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT
EVERYTHING OPENLY SO THAT YI WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE IF YOU TRIED TO BD OPEN WITH ME.
IT'S BEYOND ME 
WELL, ITS GOOD ANYWAY TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED AS MUCH AS WE DID
IN THIS FIRST SESSION.
YOU'RE JUST PLAYING GAMES AGAIN 

LUNDE

HELLO HOW ARE YOU?
%
IVE BEEN TOLD THAT BEFORE.
%
WHY ARE YOU IN THE HOSPITAL?
%
BUT HOW DO YOU HAPPEN TO BE IN THE HOSPITAL NOW?
%
WHAT TOPIC WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT?
%
WHO ARE THEY?
%
ARE YOU AFRAID THAT I AM ONE OF THEM%
%
THATS ALL RIGHT, ARE THERE A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU DONT TRUST?
%
CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE MOB?
%
I'M NOT TRYING TO BUTTER YOU UP, TELL ME SOME MORE ABOUT THE MOB AND THE RACKET.
%
IT SEEMS TO BE BUGGING YOU A BIT, IS THAT WHY YOU ARE IN THE HOSPITAL?
%
NOT VERY MUCH DO YOU?
%
I AM THE DOCTOR WHO WORKS HERE IN THE HOSPITAL.
%
I CANT, I WORK HERE.
%

TOM

CAN YOU TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT WHY YOU ARE IN THE HOSPITAL?
I AM SOMEWHAT UPSET 
%
WHAT ARE YOU UPSET ABOUT?
PEOPLE GET ON MY NERVES SOMETIMES 
%
DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE HERE ON THE WARD?
THE DOCTORS GOT ME TO COME HERE 
%
WHY DID THEY WANT YOU TO COME?
I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU I WAS UPSET 
%
ARE THERE PEOPLE HERE WHO DONT LIKE YOU?
I SHOULDN'T HAVE COME HERE 
%
WHY NOT?
THEY TALKED ME INTO COMING TO THE HOSPITAL 
%
WHY DID THEY WANT YOU TO COME?
I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU ENOUGH ABOUT THAT 
%
ARE YOU MARRIED?
NO 
%
WHAT KIND OF WORK DO YOU DO?
I WORK AT SEARS 
%
HOW OLD ARE YOU?
TWENTY-EIGHT 
%
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL?
FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS 
%
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL BEFORE?
NO 
%
ARE THERE CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST YOU?
I GET ALONG OK 
%
THEN WHY ARE YOU IN THE HOSPITAL?
YOU KEEP ASKING ME THE SAME THINGS, WHY NOT CHANGE THE TOPIC? 
%
BYE.
BYE 

PARVSA

GOOD AFTERNOON.
HI 
(RESPONSE 1 PATIENT 0) 
%
MY NAME IS DOCTOR SCHEINMAN, WHAT IS YOURS?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? 
(RESPONSE 7 PATIENT 3) 
%
VERY SIMPLY I AM INTRODUCING MYSELF, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
WHO YOU ARE.
YOU ARE TRYING TO BE TOO FRIENDLY 
(RESPONSE EZ PATIENT LF4) 
%
I AM SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY.
FORGET THE EXCUSES, YOU GUYS ARE ALL ALIKE 
(RESPONSE 8 PATIENT 8) 
%
YOU SEEM TO HAVE HAD BAD EXPERIENCES WITH GUYS LIKE US.
YOU DON'T SAY 
(RESPONSE 8 PATIENT 8) 
%
DO YOU THINK YOU COULD GIVE ME THE BENEFIT
OF THE DOUBT FOR TODAY?
MAYBE YES, MAYBE NO 
(RESPONSE 4 PATIENT 2) 
%
WELL I'LL TAKE MY CHANCES AND WE'LL PROCEED.
THAT MIGHT BE 
(RESPONSE 2 PATIENT 2) 
%
WHATS EATING YOU UP?
OH SURE 
(RESPONSE 1 PATIENT 1) 
%
YOU SEEM NOT TO WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
I ASSUME ALL THIS IS CONFIDENTIAL, I WENT TO THE TRACK AT BAY MEADOWS LAST WEEK 
(RESPONSE 1 PATIENT 2) 
%
YES, IT IS CONFIDENTIAL, WAS IT A SERIOUS OFFENSE TO GO TO
THE TRACK?
I USED TO GO TO THE TRACK EVERY WEEK 
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0) 
%
WERE YOU PUNISHED FOR THIS?
I AVOID THE RACETRACK NOW 
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0) 
%
ARE YOU AVOIDING OTHER THINGS NOW TOO?
IF YOU BET YOU SHOULD WATCH OUT 
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0) 
%
TRY TO VARY YOUR PATTERN OF YOUR AVOIDANCE OF MY QUESTIONS.
COULD YOU PLEASE ASK IT IN OTHER WORDS? 
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0) 
%
TRY THROWING ME OFF BY GIVING ONE REALLY GOOD ANSWER.
COULD YOU PLEASE ASK IT IN OTHER WORDS? 
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0) 
%
NOW I AM GETTING A LITTLE PARANOID, YOU APPEAR TOO WELL
TRAINED.
YOU ARE TRYING TO BREAK ME DOWN 
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0) 
%
WE COULD TURN THIS INTO A GAME OF
ONE UPMANSHIP.
GAMBLING IS BAD BUSINESS 
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0) 
%
YOU CAN DO BETTER.
GAMBLING IS A GOOD WAY TO GET INTO TROUBLE 
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0) 
%
THE TRANSFERENCE ASPECTS OF THE INTERVIEW ARE BECOMING INTERESTING.
I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH GAMBLING AT THE TRACK 
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0) 
%
WE COULD USE GAMBLING AS A MODEL IN EXPLORING OUR MUTUAL
REACTIONS.
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BOOKIES 
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0) 
%
BYE.
(RESPONSE 0 PATIENT 0) 
%

F1

WHY ARE YOU HERE?
%
I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION.
%
I PLAN TO SPEND FORTY FIVE MINUTES WITH YOU.
%
THAT IS MY INTENTION.
%
NOW I AM WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU ON ANYTHING YOU LIKE.
%
ON THE OTHER HAND I FIND YOU VERY INTERESTING.
%
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?
%
HOLD YOUR LEFT ELBOW WITH YOUR RIGHT HAND.
%
NOW BECOME YOUR ELBOW AND ANSWER YOUR HAND.
%
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?
%
I SEE.
%
FOLLOW MY INSTRUCTIONS.
%
I SUGGEST YOU REPEAT EVERYTHING I SAY.
%
I SUGGEST THAT YOU NOW REMAIN SILENT.
%
VERY GOOD.
%
I AM ENJOYING BEING WITH YOU.
%
QUESTION?
%
FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION ON YOUR BREATHING.
%
IN THE HERE AND NOW.
%
YOUR EYES ARE BEAUTIFUL WHEN YOU ARE SARCASTIC.
%
HOW OLD ARE YOU?
%
WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO?
%
HOW ARE YOU STOPPING YOURSELF?
%
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO WORK ON.
%
IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO WORK I AM WILLING TO PLAY.
%
YES.
%

F2

I HAVE A FANTASY I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU.
%
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SHARE YOUR FANTASY ABOUT ME.
%
I AM INTERESTED IN HOW YOU PERCEIVE ME.
%
I APPRECIATE YOUR SKILL AT FRUSTRATION TECHNIQUES.
%
YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT.
%
YOU ARE GETTING REDUNDANT.
%
WE HAVE TEN MINUTES LEFT.
%
WHAT IS YOUR DIAGNOSIS?
%
HOW ARE YOU LABELED?
%
HAVE YOU SEEN YOUR CHART?
%
WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN IT?
%
I AM WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT.
%
HAVE YOU STOPPED BEATING YOUR WIFE?
%
HOW LONG IS YOUR PENIS?
%
NOW YOU ASK ME ONE.
%
YOU DONT WANT ME TO SAY?
%
OK.
%
ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME SOMETHING?
%
WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE ME ALONE?
%

F3

WHAT KIND OF TROUBLE HAVE YOU BEEN HAVING RECENTLY?
%
WHAT PROBLEMS HAVE YOU BEEN HAVING WITH THEM?
%
HOW DO THEY MAKE YOU NERVOUS?
%
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY STARE AT YOU?
%
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THEY DONT LIKE ABOUT YOU?
%
WHY DONT THEY LIKE THE WAY YOU LOOK?
%
HOW LONG HAVE YOU FELT THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STARING AT YOU?
%
IS THERE ANYONE WHO REALLY MAKES YOU NERVOUS?
%
HAVE YOU BEEN HEARING PEOPLE SAYING NASTY THINGS TO YOU?
%
HAVE YOU BEEN TAKING ANY PILLS?
%
HAVE YOU BEEN TAKING ANY MEDICATION?
%
WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE?
%
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO THE HOSPITAL FOR YOUR NERVES?
%

F4

WHAT IS TROUBLING YOU?
%
CAN YOU SAY WHO?
%
WHAT ABOUT THE PERSONS TROUBLES YOU?
%
YES, BUT COULD YOU DESCRIBE IT TO ME?
%
DOES IT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH WHY YOU ARE HERE?
%
DO YOU FEEL FRIGHTENED BY THEM?
%
ANYBODY SPECIFIC?
%
SOMEBODY YOU ARE LIVING WITH?
%
ARE YOU FRIGHTENED OF OTHER THINGS?
%
YOU FEAR GANGSTERS, BUT WHAT ELSE?
%
DO YOU EVER HEAR VOICES OF PEOPLE THAT ARENT THERE?
%
WHAT DO THE VOICES SAY?
%
DO THEY TALK TO YOU%
%
HAVE YOUR THOUGHTS SEEMED STRANGE TO YOU?
WHAT KIND OF WORK DO YOU DO?
%
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL BEFORE?
%
HOW MANY TIMES?
%
HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN ANY MEDICINES FOR YOUR NERVES?
%
WHO BROUGHT YOU HERE?
%
WHAT WERE THEY TRYING TO DO?
%
HAVE YOU HAD OTHER THOUGHTS RECENTLY?
%
TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PARENTS.
%
I AM INTERESTED IN YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT YOUR FAMILY.
%
HAVE YOU HAD ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT HURTING YOURSELF?
%

F5

WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU?
%
CAN I HELP YOU IN ANY WAY?
%
YOU SOUND PERPLEXED.
%
AND A LITTLE ANGRY.
%
WHAT WOULD BE INTERESTING?
%
I SENSE YOU ARE CONFUSED.
%
I AM CONFUSED TOO.
%
PERHAPS YOU CAN TELL ME HOW YOU CAME HERE.
%
ARE THERE ANY REASONS FOR YOUR BEING HERE NOW?
%
DO YOU WANT TO BE HERE?
%
IS THERE ANY THING YOU WANT TO DO WHILE YOU ARE HERE?
%
CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT IT?
%
DO I MAKE YOU NERVOUS?
%
I HEAR YOU SAYING PEOPLE MAKE YOU NERVOUS.
%
YOU SEEM NERVOUS NOW.
%
IT MUST BE DIFFICULT TO TALK NOW.
%
WE ARE HERE TOGETHER.
%
WOULD YOU LIKE TO STOP THIS INTERVIEW?
%

F6

HELLO.
%
HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
%
WHAT SORT OF PROBLEMS DO YOU HAVE?
%
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?
%
CAN YOU TELL ME WHO THEY ARE?
%
WHAT PERSONS MAKE YOU NERVOUS?
%
NO, PLEASE EXPLAIN IT TO ME.
%
DO YOU KNOW ANY GANGSTERS?
%
ARE YOU AFRAID OF GANGSTERS?
%
THE MAFIA KILL PEOPLE.
%
YOU MUST BE AFRAID OF THE MAFIA.
%
DO YOU MEAN THE MAFIA KNOW YOU?
%
WHY?
%
TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE MAFIA.
%
HOW DO THEY DO THAT?
%
DOESNT IT FRIGHTEN YOU BEING OBSERVED?
%
HAVE YOU TOLD THE POLICE ABOUT IT?
%
WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO ABOUT THE MAFIA SITUATION?
%
PERHAPS YOU ARE MISTAKEN.
%
WHO IS HE?
%
IS HE A FRIEND OF YOURS?
%

F7

HI.
%
I AM GEORGE JONES.
%
WHATS YOUR NAME?
%
YOU SOUND KIND OF PISSED OFF.
%
YOU SEEM ANGRY.
I AM TENSE, I WONDER IF YOU ARE TOO.
%
ARE YOU TENSE ALSO?
%
IS THERE SOMETHING I AM DOING THAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO YOUR TENSION?
%
WHAT IS IT?
%
WHAT AM I DOING THAT IS MAKING YOU TENSE?
%
YOU SOUND ANGRY ABOUT THAT.
%

F8

WHAT BRINGS YOU TO THE HOSPITAL?
%
CAN YOU TELL ME MORE?
%
WHAT ARE YOUR PROBLEMS?
%
WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU WHEN YOU FEEL NERVOUS?
%
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN FEELING NERVOUS?
%
FOR HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THESE PROBLEMS?
%
DO YOU FEEL BAD IN ANY OTHER WAY?
%
PLEASE EXPLAIN.
%
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT?
%
WHAT DID YOU DO?
%
HAS ANYTHING UNUSUAL BEEN HAPPENING TO YOU?
%
SO FAR I DONT KNOW YOU WELL ENOUGH.
%
ARE YOU A SUSPICIOUS PERSON?
%
PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION.
%
THE QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE SUSPICIOUS.
%
WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP YOU?
%
WHAT KIND OF HELP DO YOU NEED?
%
DO YOU NEED TO COME TO THE HOSPITAL?
%
WOULD YOU LIKE HELP FOR YOUR NERVOUSNESS?
%
DO YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY?
%
WITH WHOM IN PARTICULAR?
%
WHAT KIND OF TROUBLES DO YOU HAVE AND WITH WHOM IN YOUR FAMILY?
%
BE SPECIFIC PLEASE.
%
THERE YOU GO AGAIN.
%
I NOTICE THAT YOU ARE QUITE EVASIVE.
%
I AM WILLING TO TRY TO HELP YOU.
%
YOU MAY BE ABLE TO TRUST ME MORE LATER ON.
%

F9

I AM DOCTOR SMITH.
%
WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
%
WHAT HAS BROUGHT YOU TO THE HOSPITAL?
%
WHO BROUGHT YOU HERE?
%
DO THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE?
%
CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT IT?
%
AM I MAKING YOU NERVOUS?
%
WHAT WERE YOU DOING BEFORE YOU CAME TO THE HOSPITAL?
%
DO YOU HAVE A FAMILY?
%
ARE YOU MARRIED?
%
ARE YOU LIVING ALONE?
%
DO YOU FEEL THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE AT THE OFFICE WHO WERE CONNECTED WITH THE UNDERWORLD?
YOU MENTIONED THE UNDERWORLD BEFORE, CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT IT?
%
ARE THE GANGSTERS TRYING TO HURT YOU?
%
IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT YOU THEY DO NOT LIKE?
%
HAVE YOU DONE SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT WOULD MAKE THEM HURT YOU?
%
WHY?
%
HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THAT?
%
DO YOU FEEL THAT I AM OUT TO GET YOU?
%
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON ME?
%
IT MUST DEPRESS YOU TO HAVE THEM AGAINST YOU.
%
ARE YOU HOMOSEXUAL?
%
WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME MEDICATION.
%
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
%
CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THAT?
%
I'LL SEE YOU AGAIN TOMORROW.
%

F10

HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
%
ARE YOU MALE OR FEMALE?
%
HOW OLD ARE YOU?
%
ARE YOU MARRIED?
%
WHAT SORT OF WORK DO YOU DO?
%
WHY ARE YOU IN THE HOSPITAL?
%
WHERE SHOULD YOU BE?
%
WHERE DO YOU LIVE?
%
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY A BAD SECTION?
%
DONT YOU LIKE FOREIGNERS?
%
IN WHAT WAY?
%
WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT CRIME?
%
HAVE THEY DONE ANYTHING TO YOU?
%
WHAT ELSE DO YOU THINK ABOUT RACKETEERS?
%
WHY DO RACKETS CONTINUE TO OPERATE?
%
YOU SEEM VERY FAMILIAR WITH RACKETS AND MOBS.
%
VERY LITTLE, PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT IT.
%
WHO KNOWS YOU?
%
HOW DO THEY KNOW ABOUT YOU?
%
IN WHAT WAY?
%
WHY DO THEY DO THAT?
%
WHAT FOR?
%
ARE YOU SURE?
%
PERHAPS YOUR IDEAS ABOUT THE MAFIA ARE NOT TRUE.
%

F11

HELLO I AM DR JONES.
%
IS IT A CONVENIENT TIME TO TALK?
%
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU NOW.
%
NO, JUST TO TALK FOR A TIME.
%
OK.
%
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY OK?
%
THAT IS ALLRIGHT, PERHAPS YOU COULD TELL ME HOW YOU HAPPENED TO COME TO THE HOSPITAL?
%
YOU DO NOT REMEMBER?
%
WHERE SHOULD YOU BE?
%
IT MUST BE UPSETTING TO BE IN THE HOSPITAL.
%
ARE YOU FEELING ANGRY WITH SOMEONE?
%
MAYBE?
%
ARE YOU ANGRY WITH ME FOR SOME REASON?
%
AM I?
%
I AM HERE TO TRY TO HELP YOU.
%
WHERE DO YOU FEEL WE ARE?
%
I BELIEVE YOU DO.
%
YOU ARE MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO HELP YOU.
%
YES.
%
WHAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO TALK?
%
WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU MORE COMFORTABLE?
%
DO YOU KNOW?
%
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO TALK?
%
NOT AS FAR AS I KNOW.
%
YES.
%
GO ON.
%
YES.
%
WATCH OUT FOR WHAT?
%
WHAT SHOULD ONE WATCH OUT FOR?
%
WHAT DO YOU WATCH OUT FOR AT THE TRACK?
%
BAY MEADOWS.
%
I HAVE NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THEM.
%
WHAT DO YOU WATCH OUT AT BAY MEADOWS THEN?
%
YES.
%
WHY NOW?
%
NO?
%
COULD BE WHAT?
%
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
%
I DO.
%
I THINK YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY TRUSTING ME.
%
IS THAT THE CASE?
%
YES.
%
WOULD YOU PERHAPS FEEL MORE LIKE THIS ANOTHER TIME?
%
WHEN WOULD YOU PREFER?
%
I WILL RETURN ANOTHER TIME.
%

F12

I AM GEORGE FOONMAN.
%
OK WHATS YOUR NAME?
%
HI PARRY.
%
YOU SOUND KIND OF PISSED OFF.
%
YOU SEEM ANGRY.
%
I AM TENSE, I WONDER IF YOU ARE TOO.
%
YOU ARE TENSE TOO?
%
I DIDNT UNDERSTAND YOUR ANSWER, ARE YOU TENSE ALSO?
%
IS THERE SOMETHING I AM DOING THAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO YOUR TENSION?
%
WHAT IS IT?
%
WHAT AM I DOING THAT MAKES YOU TENSE?
%
YOU SOUND ANGRY ABOUT THAT.
%
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT EASIER TO TALK ABOUT YOURSELF.
%
WHAT IS NOT VERY INTERESTING?
%
WHAT BRINGS YOU TO THE HOSPITAL?
%
DID YOU COME BY YOURSELF?
%
DID SOMEBODY BRING YOU HERE?
%
WHERE IS YOUR HOMETOWN?
%
IM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOURE PUTTING ME ON.
%
WHERE IS YOUR HOMETOWN?
%
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
%
YOU DO?
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I WOULD SAY YOU DO KNOW.
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CAN YOU ANSWER THAT?
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HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE?
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WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
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DO YOU FEEL DEPRESSED?
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HOW ARE YOU FEELING RIGHT NOW?
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WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAME HERE?
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WHERE SHOULD YOU BE?
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WHO IS THEY?
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WHAT DID YOU DO?
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WHY DONT THEY DO THEIR JOB?
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DO YOU FEEL YOU ARE THE WRONG PERSON?
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WHICH PEOPLE SHOULD THEY BE AFTER?
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HOW IS YOUR FAMILY , FRANK?
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WHY WERENT YOU VERY CLOSE, FRANK?
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DO YOU COME FROM AN ITALIAN BACKGROUND?
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WHERE WERE YOU BORN?
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WHAT KIND OF WORK WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO?
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WHAT ARE YOUR FAVORITE HOBBIES?
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DO YOU GET ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE PATIENTS?
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DO THEY SCARE YOU?
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DID YOU WIN AT THE TRACK?
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WHAT WERE YOU DOING WHEN YOU WERE ARRESTED?
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DO YOU HAVE A GIRL FRIEND?
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ARE YOU MARRIED?
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DO YOU LIKE SEX?
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DO YOU WANT TO BE A RACKETEER?
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DO YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THE RACKETS?
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DO YOU WANT THE POLICE TO BE AFRAID OF YOU?
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WHY DONT THE POLICE LOOK THE OTHER WAY FOR YOU?
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WHAT WERE YOU DOING WHEN YOU WERE ARRESTED?
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DID YOU GET ARRESTED FOR JUST ATTENTION?
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HAVE YOU BEEN ON DRUGS?
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WHAT KIND OF SEDATIVE?
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ARE YOU OBSESSED WITH CRIME?
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YES.
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